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CMCINTYRE3600 Member	posted February 27, 2003 09:35 AM Hey Bob What criteria are used for picking the "Back 4" covers? What do you look for? It seems that, in the past, DC has made some interesting decisions and some puzzling omissions. Is it simply the ones that require the least restoration? Chris IP: Logged
dnewton Member	posted February 28, 2003 02:54 AM Bob: Question about Secret Files in 2003 - which months are they coming out & how many are there? IP: Logged
James Friel Member	posted February 28, 2003 04:19 AM I'm not sure a Collected Editions editor would really have reason to know that. IP: Logged
Schatzie Member	posted March 03, 2003 12:16 AM Bob, I read H-E-R-O #1 and it was not my cup of tea (as it read like a Marvel comic), but I sure would like to see a DIAL 'H' ARCHIVE in all it's classic DC glory. What are the odds of a DIAL 'H' ARCHIVE? IP: Logged
Mike Falcon Member	posted March 07, 2003 12:40 AM BUMP Made you look! IP: Logged
Hack Member	posted March 07, 2003 12:03 PM quote: Originally posted by Mike Falcon: BUMP Made you look! D'oh! IP: Logged
silveragesuperfan Member	posted March 08, 2003 10:27 AM I'm wondering if it isn't a good idea for someone with time on their hands (although this may be no one..I'd do it if I could) to summarize the questions posed to Bob since his last posting date (the questions not duplicating previously asked ones on this thread, that is) for his convenience? And updates thereafter until we reach a point where we would have to give up all hope that he would return. It might involve starting a new thread with a title like Bob:Save Time!Start Here When You Return. Would this work? IP: Logged
nightwingoracle Member	posted March 09, 2003 12:32 AM quote: Originally posted by dcexplosion78: Bruce Wayne: Murderer was boring? And you call that glorified chase scene known as Hush, part 1 a story? Yes, Bruce Wayne Murderer (and the subsequent Fugutive) was pretty much boring. Few surprises, most people had Luthor figured out from the get go. It drug on and on...boring. IP: Logged
dnewton Member	posted March 09, 2003 01:58 AM NWO & Davesharon: Please explain to me why you thought Murderer/Fugitive was and Hush pt 1 wasn't? Luthor was my last choice as the mastermind - I had villains like The Joker, Riddler, Ra's Al Ghul & Bane as my picks. IP: Logged
nightwingoracle Member	posted March 09, 2003 02:11 AM quote: Originally posted by dnewton: NWO & Davesharon: Please explain to me why you thought Murderer/Fugitive was and Hush pt 1 wasn't? Luthor was my last choice as the mastermind - I had villains like The Joker, Riddler, Ra's Al Ghul & Bane as my picks. Honestly, one of my main problems with the Bat-books for the last several years has been long, drawn out boring crossovers that ultimately result in nothing special. This was just another one. You knew Bruce wasn't the murderer. Supposedly No Man's Land had taught him to value his "family" but now we had to watch him learn that lesson all over again. Vesper Fairchild wasn't a character that I had any attachment to (and I've been there since long before her introduction) so I had no emotional investment in the story. Cain was a major player, and since I find him to be a worthless two-bit Deathstroke imitator, that didn't do anything to help the storyline in my opinion. And it was just obvious that it was Luthor -- with No Man's Land he had a huge grudge against Bruce Wayne (which Joker and the other foes with the exception of Ras Al Ghul did not) and with his resources it was just possible. Ras had been seen recently and dealt with, so I felt sure it wasn't him. And Batman's leaving Sasha in prison for so long was out of character for him and a big negative for me. So to sum it up, it just seemed obvious from the beginning to me that it was Luthor, and the story added nothing new that hadn't been dealt with before. As for HUSH - I find it fun. It's the fanboy thing - a 12 (now 18) issue run of Batman by a good writer and artist that deals with many of the things I (and others) want to see - a Batman/Catwoman relationship, a Batman/Superman battle, some unrevealed past Bruce Wayne life stories, the big villains (Poison Ivy, Killer Croc, coming up is Joker and Harley Quinn), the associates (Oracle and Huntress, with Nightwing and Robin coming up) the interactions between the Gotham and Metropolis crowds that let you read between the lines, etc.... It's entertaining. IP: Logged
dnewton Member	posted March 09, 2003 02:48 AM NWO: quote: Honestly, one of my main problems with the Bat-books for the last several years has been long, drawn out boring crossovers that ultimately result in nothing special. This was just another one. You knew Bruce wasn't the murderer. Supposedly No Man's Land had taught him to value his "family" but now we had to watch him learn that lesson all over again. Vesper Fairchild wasn't a character that I had any attachment to (and I've been there since long before her introduction) so I had no emotional investment in the story. Cain was a major player, and since I find him to be a worthless two-bit Deathstroke imitator, that didn't do anything to help the storyline in my opinion. And it was just obvious that it was Luthor -- with No Man's Land he had a huge grudge against Bruce Wayne (which Joker and the other foes with the exception of Ras Al Ghul did not) and with his resources it was just possible. Ras had been seen recently and dealt with, so I felt sure it wasn't him. And Batman's leaving Sasha in prison for so long was out of character for him and a big negative for me. So to sum it up, it just seemed obvious from the beginning to me that it was Luthor, and the story added nothing new that hadn't been dealt with before. As for HUSH - I find it fun. It's the fanboy thing - a 12 (now 18) issue run of Batman by a good writer and artist that deals with many of the things I (and others) want to see - a Batman/Catwoman relationship, a Batman/Superman battle, some unrevealed past Bruce Wayne life stories, the big villains (Poison Ivy, Killer Croc, coming up is Joker and Harley Quinn), the associates (Oracle and Huntress, with Nightwing and Robin coming up) the interactions between the Gotham and Metropolis crowds that let you read between the lines, etc.... It's entertaining. A few questions: 1 - Name the crossovers you think are boring? 2 - How did you come to the conclusion that Bruce wasn't the killer? 3 - Re: Luthor having a grudge - Why? Beause Batman kicked him out of Gotham, that's just absurd IMO? 4 - I thought that Jim Lee & Hush are boring. Batman vs Superman - we've already seen the two of them fight before (DKR, DKSA). IP: Logged
Thanagarian Member	posted March 09, 2003 11:09 AM Hey, anyone knows what happened to Bob? I mean, his last post here was on page 11 and the thread already has 16 pages. He said "see you next Tuesday" but that was long ago. Anyone? ------------------ N. Franco aka Thanagarian Member of the LMPB IP: Logged
DaBubba Member	posted March 09, 2003 12:49 PM When my friend wishes to refer to our neighbor by a vulgar term, she says "C U Next Tuesday." Maybe Bob was speaking in code? IP: Logged
dcexplosion78 Member	posted March 10, 2003 04:27 PM quote: Originally posted by nightwingoracle: Yes, Bruce Wayne Murderer (and the subsequent Fugutive) was pretty much boring. Few surprises, most people had Luthor figured out from the get go. It drug on and on...boring. But had they figured out Cain? IP: Logged
davesharon New Member	posted March 10, 2003 09:34 PM Some people probably enjoy the long drawn out cross overs that have been appearing in the bat books. I much rather prefer a tightly written 2-4 issue storyarc unless it is written/drawn by a superb staff like Jeph Loeb and Jim Lee. Their style kind of takes me back to when I was a child.....AND STILL AM BY HEART.......while the Bruce Wayne Fugitive/Murderer storyline started dragging pretty badly towards the end. I was interested in it from the beginning; but when the story appearred to go nowhere, I was disappointed in it. Sorry if I offended those who enjoyed it; but what the hey. Different strokes for different folks. By the way, here is my latest wish list for DC Archives I would love to see: 1. Bat Lash 2. Hawk and Dove by Ditko/Kane 3. Plastic Man, Plastic Man and Plastic Man 4. Silver age Superman 5. Martian Manhunter from the Detective/House of Mystery titles 6. the Creeper by Ditko/Kane 7. Sugar and Spike 8. All-Star Comics 9. World's Finest starring Batman/Superman 10. Every silver age imaginary tale/story printed. 11. THUNDER Agents 12. Justice League of America ------------------ u have 2 b crazy 2 keep from goin' insane IP: Logged
nightwingoracle Member	posted March 10, 2003 09:37 PM quote: Originally posted by dnewton: NWO: A few questions: 1 - Name the crossovers you think are boring? 2 - How did you come to the conclusion that Bruce wasn't the killer? 3 - Re: Luthor having a grudge - Why? Beause Batman kicked him out of Gotham, that's just absurd IMO? 4 - I thought that Jim Lee & Hush are boring. Batman vs Superman - we've already seen the two of them fight before (DKR, DKSA). 1 - BRUCE WAYNE MURDERER, BRUCE WAYNE FUGITIVE, NO MAN'S LAND, JOKER'S LAST LAUGH, IN THIS ISSUE BATMAN DIES, parts of OFFICER DOWN,... 2- DC is not going to let Bruce Wayne murder a woman in cold blood in on-going continuity. He's their #1 selling, #1 marketing character - it's just not going to happen. 3- Luthor has a grudge against Bruce (not Batman) for things arising out of No Man's Land. If I remember right, Bruce was also instrumental in defeating Luthor when the Injustice Gang (Luthor/Joker/Circe/etc...) first fought the JLA. There is no love lost between those two. With the scope of the storyline and Luthor's current occupation, it just seemed obvious to me. 4- That's a matter of opinion, which is fine. If you didn't like Hush, that's fine - I have no desire to convince you to like it. I've enjoyed it thus far. Bruce is written more in character than he's been written since the Crisis; for the first time since the Crisis a Batman/Catwoman relationship is happening (even if it most likely won't last); the big villains are appearing (I get really tired of the same old mafia/gangster villains showing up in the Bat titles. Batman's costume villains are the best in comics, but we don't get to see them that often except for the over-usage of Joker); the Batman/Superman battle was fun to read; and the upcoming appearances sound entertaining. The Hush storyline, along with the current Supergirl arc, are the most enjoyable mainstream superheroes storylines I've read in some time. IP: Logged
nightwingoracle Member	posted March 10, 2003 09:39 PM quote: Originally posted by dcexplosion78: But had they figured out Cain? I will say that I had not figured on Cain, just thinking that the writers had so overexposed him by that point that surely they wouldn't use him again so soon. I was wrong on that one. I wish they'd kill that character off. He's a poor man's version of Deathstroke that's gotten way too much play in the last couple of years. IP: Logged
dnewton Member	posted March 10, 2003 10:02 PM NWO: quote: 1 - BRUCE WAYNE MURDERER, BRUCE WAYNE FUGITIVE, NO MAN'S LAND, JOKER'S LAST LAUGH, IN THIS ISSUE BATMAN DIES, parts of OFFICER DOWN I agree with you on Last Laugh. But I'm not sure why you think Murderer/Fugitive, NML, Officer Down & Batman Dies were boring? IP: Logged
Ruiner Member	posted March 11, 2003 12:28 PM I don't think this is the right place to argue how good Batman is. Bob has enough to read through. Lets not flood this thread with that. IP: Logged
monkey Member	posted March 11, 2003 02:31 PM Bob hasn't responded in like a month. What's up? Is this the norm here? Just wondering! IP: Logged
NecessaryImpurity Member	posted March 11, 2003 02:52 PM quote: Originally posted by monkey: Bob hasn't responded in like a month. What's up? Is this the norm here? Just wondering! The norm is to get no info from anyone. For a few abnormal months, Bob was able to find time to answer questions. Now we are back to normal. Maybe in 6 months, there'll be opportunity for questions to be answered again. IP: Logged
nightwingoracle Member	posted March 12, 2003 09:01 AM quote: Originally posted by dnewton: NWO: [QUOTE]1 - BRUCE WAYNE MURDERER, BRUCE WAYNE FUGITIVE, NO MAN'S LAND, JOKER'S LAST LAUGH, IN THIS ISSUE BATMAN DIES, parts of OFFICER DOWN I agree with you on Last Laugh. But I'm not sure why you think Murderer/Fugitive, NML, Officer Down & Batman Dies were boring?[/QUOTE] BW: Murderer and BW: Fugitive - didn't hold any suspense for me. I knew Luthor was involved almost from the get go (as I mentioned before); I was actually glad Vesper was killed because I didn't like her character; we've seen the whole "Batman turns on his 'family' only to realize he needs them" plot before; and it drug out too long. No Man's Land - was an interesting concept that drug out way too long. If they had made it 6 months instead of a year, it would have given better stories and would not have drug on so slowly. In This Issue Batman Dies - produced some of the most stupid Batman stories I've read in a while (with the one exception being the Joker story). Officer Down - again, it drug on too long. Not every book that stars a Bat-character has to be drug into every Bat crossover. They water the stories down that way. The resolution was interesting, with Bullock taking care of the problem, but it could have been wrapped up earlier. I don't mind crossovers, but I don't like filler and I don't like stories to be stretched out when they don't need to be. They become less effective that way, and that's what many of the Bat titles have done. As for the topic of discussion - I'd love to see Bob return here as I enjoyed reading his posts. I would imagine the various battles on this board have probably driven him away for awhile, but maybe he'll return. IP: Logged
dnewton Member	posted March 12, 2003 07:33 PM NWO: quote: BW: Murderer and BW: Fugitive - didn't hold any suspense for me. I knew Luthor was involved almost from the get go (as I mentioned before); I was actually glad Vesper was killed because I didn't like her character; we've seen the whole "Batman turns on his 'family' only to realize he needs them" plot before; and it drug out too long. No Man's Land - was an interesting concept that drug out way too long. If they had made it 6 months instead of a year, it would have given better stories and would not have drug on so slowly. In This Issue Batman Dies - produced some of the most stupid Batman stories I've read in a while (with the one exception being the Joker story). Officer Down - again, it drug on too long. Not every book that stars a Bat-character has to be drug into every Bat crossover. They water the stories down that way. The resolution was interesting, with Bullock taking care of the problem, but it could have been wrapped up earlier. Let's go over the crossovers one by one, shall we: BWM/F - I thought 6 months was okay for this crossover IMO. As for the Luthor angle, he was the last suspect on my list. No Man's Land - see my comments on Murderer/Fugitive. Batman Dies - which issues were stupid? Officer Down - I really liked this one. IP: Logged
vze2 Member	posted March 12, 2003 08:01 PM Do whatever you want, but if I were involved in such a long discussion on the Batman collections, I'd start a new thread with an appropriate subject line. IP: Logged
James Friel Member	posted March 12, 2003 08:56 PM And maybe take it to the Batman board? Please? IP: Logged

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